Comments on: hoping for enlightenment http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/ joshua gottdenker's personal blog .:. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:34:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: gotjoshua http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/#comment-18 Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:33:34 +0000 http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/#comment-18 OK I can help (i think)... #1 - being free FROM thought is different than being without thought. eg: not being in jail does not imply the jail is not there... eg2: watching the clouds go by from above in an airplane is quite different from getting rained on. #2 - if ONE were to play the silly game of "defining" enlightement, the response would be pure silence and stillness. When WE _TRY_ to define enlightenment, we are damned to inferiority, as the mind cannot actually describe a state where the essence of consciousness has transcended the mind... but we can try... in this state the thoughts are easily seen as clouds and the true essence of consciousness that dwells in the body (aka: the observer, theSelf) doesn't care if they are rain clouds or fluffy white ones. #3 - interaction is most certainly possible in an enlightened state, even preferable and often embued with more luminosity and truth (aka. more enlightened ;-) OK I can help (i think)…
#1 - being free FROM thought is different than being without thought.
eg: not being in jail does not imply the jail is not there…
eg2: watching the clouds go by from above in an airplane is quite different from getting rained on.

#2 - if ONE were to play the silly game of “defining” enlightement, the response would be pure silence and stillness. When WE _TRY_ to define enlightenment, we are damned to inferiority, as the mind cannot actually describe a state where the essence of consciousness has transcended the mind… but we can try… in this state the thoughts are easily seen as clouds and the true essence of consciousness that dwells in the body (aka: the observer, theSelf) doesn’t care if they are rain clouds or fluffy white ones.

#3 - interaction is most certainly possible in an enlightened state, even preferable and often embued with more luminosity and truth (aka. more enlightened ;-)

]]> by: popz http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/#comment-17 Sun, 10 Sep 2006 05:16:06 +0000 http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/#comment-17 I think I need some help with this...How does one define "enlightenment"? To be enlightened is to be free of thought? I don't think that is possible for a human with a healthy brain, except maybe very briefly... Can we interact with others when "enlightened"? Where does one go to learn more about this concept? Any suggestions? PoPz I think I need some help with this…How does one define “enlightenment”?
To be enlightened is to be free of thought? I don’t think that is possible for a human with a healthy brain, except maybe very briefly…
Can we interact with others when “enlightened”? Where does one go to learn more about this concept? Any suggestions?
PoPz

]]> by: meem http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/#comment-16 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:21:32 +0000 http://gotblogua.gotjosh.net/08-2006/115_hoping-for-enlightenment/#comment-16 YIKES!!!!!! Fine thinking...fine writing...(no judgement intended)...just an observation... You're right too, i think, about all of it...especially maybe the falafel! love and more love and the such like... YIKES!!!!!!
Fine thinking…fine writing…(no judgement intended)…just an observation…
You’re right too, i think, about all of it…especially maybe the falafel!
love and more love and the such like…

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